Todd Davis

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. So someone will say, I will change the names to protect the innocent. But someone was frustrated that they weren't getting any recognition for the work they were doing. And they were on this project team, and they said, you know, and I'll just use Joe as the leader. Joe never calls me out.

I helped put together that whole third hour of this work session, or I helped put together that spreadsheet. And when the executive team was congratulating themselves, Joe never said anything. well, I want you to know that Sam did a lot of this too, and she was great at this. And I say, okay, so do you think Joe was wanting to make them think that he did it all?

I helped put together that whole third hour of this work session, or I helped put together that spreadsheet. And when the executive team was congratulating themselves, Joe never said anything. well, I want you to know that Sam did a lot of this too, and she was great at this. And I say, okay, so do you think Joe was wanting to make them think that he did it all?

I helped put together that whole third hour of this work session, or I helped put together that spreadsheet. And when the executive team was congratulating themselves, Joe never said anything. well, I want you to know that Sam did a lot of this too, and she was great at this. And I say, okay, so do you think Joe was wanting to make them think that he did it all?

And this person, Joe said, no, I don't think that. I said, you are obviously a very thoughtful person. Do you think Joe is even aware that he's doing that? I don't know. I said, have you ever had a conversation with Joe? Have you just told him, not in an angry way, but just say, hey, Joe, maybe I'm being too sensitive, but I kind of felt like when we met... No, I've never said that.

And this person, Joe said, no, I don't think that. I said, you are obviously a very thoughtful person. Do you think Joe is even aware that he's doing that? I don't know. I said, have you ever had a conversation with Joe? Have you just told him, not in an angry way, but just say, hey, Joe, maybe I'm being too sensitive, but I kind of felt like when we met... No, I've never said that.

And this person, Joe said, no, I don't think that. I said, you are obviously a very thoughtful person. Do you think Joe is even aware that he's doing that? I don't know. I said, have you ever had a conversation with Joe? Have you just told him, not in an angry way, but just say, hey, Joe, maybe I'm being too sensitive, but I kind of felt like when we met... No, I've never said that.

Would you be willing to say, I mean, I don't want you to feel uncomfortable, but is that something you'd feel comfortable doing? And this person would say to me, well, how would you say that? And I'd tell them. So that's just an example, just helping people come to their own, realizing that there aren't tons of bad people in the world. Well, I don't know. Maybe there are.

Would you be willing to say, I mean, I don't want you to feel uncomfortable, but is that something you'd feel comfortable doing? And this person would say to me, well, how would you say that? And I'd tell them. So that's just an example, just helping people come to their own, realizing that there aren't tons of bad people in the world. Well, I don't know. Maybe there are.

Would you be willing to say, I mean, I don't want you to feel uncomfortable, but is that something you'd feel comfortable doing? And this person would say to me, well, how would you say that? And I'd tell them. So that's just an example, just helping people come to their own, realizing that there aren't tons of bad people in the world. Well, I don't know. Maybe there are.

But I think most people have good intent. They just may not be as self-aware people. as they'd like to be. So I will get out a T-chart all the time and I'll say, okay, so in listening to you, here's what I understand is important to you. What do you think is important to Fred? And so many people, mature, educated people would say, well, I don't know. I'm not Fred. I know that.

But I think most people have good intent. They just may not be as self-aware people. as they'd like to be. So I will get out a T-chart all the time and I'll say, okay, so in listening to you, here's what I understand is important to you. What do you think is important to Fred? And so many people, mature, educated people would say, well, I don't know. I'm not Fred. I know that.

But I think most people have good intent. They just may not be as self-aware people. as they'd like to be. So I will get out a T-chart all the time and I'll say, okay, so in listening to you, here's what I understand is important to you. What do you think is important to Fred? And so many people, mature, educated people would say, well, I don't know. I'm not Fred. I know that.

But if you were in Fred's role, what do you think would be important, Fred? Well, He'd want to make sure that the project's done on time. Okay, let's put that down. What else? Well, we probably want to make sure that we do this with excellence.

But if you were in Fred's role, what do you think would be important, Fred? Well, He'd want to make sure that the project's done on time. Okay, let's put that down. What else? Well, we probably want to make sure that we do this with excellence.

But if you were in Fred's role, what do you think would be important, Fred? Well, He'd want to make sure that the project's done on time. Okay, let's put that down. What else? Well, we probably want to make sure that we do this with excellence.

And it's so interesting to coach people and get them in the mindset of thinking about the other person, putting themselves in the place of the other person. So those are some very real outcomes of taking time to understand each other.

And it's so interesting to coach people and get them in the mindset of thinking about the other person, putting themselves in the place of the other person. So those are some very real outcomes of taking time to understand each other.

And it's so interesting to coach people and get them in the mindset of thinking about the other person, putting themselves in the place of the other person. So those are some very real outcomes of taking time to understand each other.

I couldn't agree more, Heather. And you just caused me to think of, I remember somebody, a senior leader, when I was coaching this person on this, they said, well, my concern is if I just ask a couple of questions, let them talk all the time while they're talking, I don't agree with them, Todd. And so if I keep letting them talk, and I said, that's the part you got to be comfortable with.