Tom Holland

It took them three months to do it.

And then Pizarro shared it out.

But the Spanish do not stop there.

Now, every previous Spanish expedition to the New World had degenerated quite quickly into disorder and feuding.

And the conquest of Peru, I'm sorry to say, is no different.

So in March 1934, Pizarro had re-founded Cuzco as a Spanish city under Spanish law.

And at the time, Pizarro, to be fair to him, had directed that locals should be well treated.

And I quote, the native people of this country were created as our brothers and our descendants of our first ancestors.

I mean, that's the sort of message of the Las Casas school, isn't it, Tom?

Yes.

That there are always people in the Spanish world.

who are saying, if we are true Christians, we cannot treat these people just as slaves and as dogs and all of this.

We can't burn them and chain them up and execute them.

We've got to treat them properly.

We've got to be true to our principles.

Yeah, but I mean, it never crosses their mind that turning up, nicking their city, turning it into something completely else.

I mean, that's quite bad.

Well, I think we think it's bad.

They didn't think it was bad.

They thought it was tremendous.