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Tom Nichols

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The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

But this whole DEI thing at the Defense Department is kind of like a cross between that and Homer Simpson in the John Waters episode where Marge comes home and he says, he didn't give you gay, did he? I mean, there is just this weird kind of... scrubbing of everything that is to be a little more serious about this. It's Stalinist. Yes.

The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

But this whole DEI thing at the Defense Department is kind of like a cross between that and Homer Simpson in the John Waters episode where Marge comes home and he says, he didn't give you gay, did he? I mean, there is just this weird kind of... scrubbing of everything that is to be a little more serious about this. It's Stalinist. Yes.

The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

I mean, it's just kind of a Stalinist, you know, throw everything in the memory hole. And, you know, I say this as... especially as a longtime federal employee, to sit through a lot of the training and all the other stuff, I could have been a natural ally about too much DEI stuff. Some of these trainings are stupid.

The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

I mean, it's just kind of a Stalinist, you know, throw everything in the memory hole. And, you know, I say this as... especially as a longtime federal employee, to sit through a lot of the training and all the other stuff, I could have been a natural ally about too much DEI stuff. Some of these trainings are stupid.

The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

I mean, it's just kind of a Stalinist, you know, throw everything in the memory hole. And, you know, I say this as... especially as a longtime federal employee, to sit through a lot of the training and all the other stuff, I could have been a natural ally about too much DEI stuff. Some of these trainings are stupid.

The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

I had to take a morning out of my life as a federal employee while a professor came in and tried to explain to people, I still remember this, there were guys much older than me sitting there, nodding, trying to figure out. She's going, okay, so this is what cis...

The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

I had to take a morning out of my life as a federal employee while a professor came in and tried to explain to people, I still remember this, there were guys much older than me sitting there, nodding, trying to figure out. She's going, okay, so this is what cis...

The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

I had to take a morning out of my life as a federal employee while a professor came in and tried to explain to people, I still remember this, there were guys much older than me sitting there, nodding, trying to figure out. She's going, okay, so this is what cis...

The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

hetero means and i'm like oh for christ's sake you know we really have work to do today and you know okay i get it that's you could say look we're not gonna we're not gonna do that we're not gonna spend money on that but scrubbing the defense department archives to like make sure that somebody who you know was gay in the 1990 story or something gets like you know

The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

hetero means and i'm like oh for christ's sake you know we really have work to do today and you know okay i get it that's you could say look we're not gonna we're not gonna do that we're not gonna spend money on that but scrubbing the defense department archives to like make sure that somebody who you know was gay in the 1990 story or something gets like you know

The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

hetero means and i'm like oh for christ's sake you know we really have work to do today and you know okay i get it that's you could say look we're not gonna we're not gonna do that we're not gonna spend money on that but scrubbing the defense department archives to like make sure that somebody who you know was gay in the 1990 story or something gets like you know

The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

And Stalinist. That's the thing. There's a Stalinism to it. I mean, again, I could have โ€“ if Hegseth had had a quick press conference and said, listen, these things cost X dollars a year. We're not bringing any more guest speakers to explain to old retired colonels what it means to be cis. Fine. Fine. That was a waste of taxpayer money.

The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

And Stalinist. That's the thing. There's a Stalinism to it. I mean, again, I could have โ€“ if Hegseth had had a quick press conference and said, listen, these things cost X dollars a year. We're not bringing any more guest speakers to explain to old retired colonels what it means to be cis. Fine. Fine. That was a waste of taxpayer money.

The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

And Stalinist. That's the thing. There's a Stalinism to it. I mean, again, I could have โ€“ if Hegseth had had a quick press conference and said, listen, these things cost X dollars a year. We're not bringing any more guest speakers to explain to old retired colonels what it means to be cis. Fine. Fine. That was a waste of taxpayer money.

The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

I mean, I'm not going to support Pete Hegseth, but I would have nodded and said, okay, I guess you could save a few bucks there. This is different. This is something really different and almost like it's a larger point. It shows you that MAGA world thinks of itself as this embattled minority.

The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

I mean, I'm not going to support Pete Hegseth, but I would have nodded and said, okay, I guess you could save a few bucks there. This is different. This is something really different and almost like it's a larger point. It shows you that MAGA world thinks of itself as this embattled minority.

The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

I mean, I'm not going to support Pete Hegseth, but I would have nodded and said, okay, I guess you could save a few bucks there. This is different. This is something really different and almost like it's a larger point. It shows you that MAGA world thinks of itself as this embattled minority.

The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

Even though they control everything right now, they still think of themselves as like Christians hiding in the catacombs and drawing fish symbols on doors. And so while they have the power, they're going to set the timeline right. You know what I mean? Like, if only we can go back to 1989, the last time we had a real president and say, OK, we're going to just scrub the timeline.

The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

Even though they control everything right now, they still think of themselves as like Christians hiding in the catacombs and drawing fish symbols on doors. And so while they have the power, they're going to set the timeline right. You know what I mean? Like, if only we can go back to 1989, the last time we had a real president and say, OK, we're going to just scrub the timeline.

The Bulwark Podcast
Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

Even though they control everything right now, they still think of themselves as like Christians hiding in the catacombs and drawing fish symbols on doors. And so while they have the power, they're going to set the timeline right. You know what I mean? Like, if only we can go back to 1989, the last time we had a real president and say, OK, we're going to just scrub the timeline.