Tom Nichols

Well, if somehow tomorrow Trump fired everybody and he said, okay, Tom and David, come on in.

You've got your shot.

You've got five minutes for an elevator pitch.

I would say this is the time to find somebody that you can talk to.

Don't keep doing this damage that you don't want to have to fix later.

go to congress now because i i'm getting even i'm getting to the point where i think congress should invoke the war powers act because there's a whole issue of constitutionality here that i think you know we alighted in previous wars that is now completely thrown out the window and to say to the iranians here's the new deal you are going to change your type of government you are going to stop killing people here are the here's the list of demands sign here

You may get away with what's left of your regime.

Trump's answer seems to be, and I would say if I were standing there, I'd say, Mr. President, you can't kill everybody in Tehran and then say, now form a government.

That's just not how it works.

You've killed the worst guys.

Now find the less worst guys and basically get them to seal their own doom over time.

But the more that it's done at the point of American weapons, the more opening there is for all kinds of chaos that could make even worse people more empowered.

This is something very important to point out, and I know this is not to you, David, but I know that a lot of folks think of Iran as death to America and the whole country hates us.

That is not true.

The Iranians are an educated...

modern people who actually a lot of them have a fair amount of affection for the United States, as ironic as that is after everything we've been involved with going back to 1953.

But you don't want to lose that by creating a serious situation where everything gets just pounded into rubble and then people start blaming America.

nations around the world.

It's being in blame.

I will jump on one thing.