Tom Schwartz

but but you guys built your personalities based on kind of living your authentic self or trying to be asked be asked to live your authentic self so i think you guys have plenty in you like i'm i'm forecasting the reunions like when we do family vacation mode when that rolls in in 10 years hopefully there's enough water who knows what the future holds for everybody but I mean, how do you feel?

but but you guys built your personalities based on kind of living your authentic self or trying to be asked be asked to live your authentic self so i think you guys have plenty in you like i'm i'm forecasting the reunions like when we do family vacation mode when that rolls in in 10 years hopefully there's enough water who knows what the future holds for everybody but I mean, how do you feel?

That's wild.

That's wild.

At first, I mean, it was like my entire life was Vanderpump Rules and Schwartz and Sandys. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I had a vision for the future. Like we wanted to scale in the beginning. We were talking about licensing and all this. And then, you know, it all kind of went up in flames in back-to-back days because we decided we announced the closure of Schwartz and Sandys.

At first, I mean, it was like my entire life was Vanderpump Rules and Schwartz and Sandys. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I had a vision for the future. Like we wanted to scale in the beginning. We were talking about licensing and all this. And then, you know, it all kind of went up in flames in back-to-back days because we decided we announced the closure of Schwartz and Sandys.

By the way, you guys, I know we've gone over this, but I'm just riffing with Brock. I'm catching up. We announced the closure of Schwartz and Sandys. The next day, they announced Vanderpump Rules would not be coming back with the OG cast. And it was just like, wait, that's like my whole life, man. At the moment, it felt like that. It's not my whole life, but it felt cataclysmic.

By the way, you guys, I know we've gone over this, but I'm just riffing with Brock. I'm catching up. We announced the closure of Schwartz and Sandys. The next day, they announced Vanderpump Rules would not be coming back with the OG cast. And it was just like, wait, that's like my whole life, man. At the moment, it felt like that. It's not my whole life, but it felt cataclysmic.

That was the next day?

That was the next day?

Yeah, the next day, back to back.

Yeah, the next day, back to back.

Because no one else knew anything either, right? We all just assumed, oh, well, we're going to pick cameras up, see what the summer has to hold.

Because no one else knew anything either, right? We all just assumed, oh, well, we're going to pick cameras up, see what the summer has to hold.

Yeah, we thought we were going to do an abbreviated season.

Yeah, we thought we were going to do an abbreviated season.

Right, yeah, just like final, yeah. Well, can I tell you that this is my logic behind it. It makes sense to. To pull the pin now makes the most sense because you have such a huge fan base already, pre-existing, but the new audience you guys adapted was like 30%, 40% growth. Yeah. So those late adopters aren't committed to the original cast.

Right, yeah, just like final, yeah. Well, can I tell you that this is my logic behind it. It makes sense to. To pull the pin now makes the most sense because you have such a huge fan base already, pre-existing, but the new audience you guys adapted was like 30%, 40% growth. Yeah. So those late adopters aren't committed to the original cast.

They're just committed to this crazy group of the structure. So on the business side of things, when that came out, I was like, damn, they really did just pull the pin. I wish them luck with it. But what I see now on TV is in the reality space is that People act like they're on reality TV. They're too self-aware. Constant feedback loop. Constant feedback loop.

They're just committed to this crazy group of the structure. So on the business side of things, when that came out, I was like, damn, they really did just pull the pin. I wish them luck with it. But what I see now on TV is in the reality space is that People act like they're on reality TV. They're too self-aware. Constant feedback loop. Constant feedback loop.