Tom Schwartz

You can watch and learn from others' mistakes, betrayals, red flags, how dumb you look when you get sloppy drunk.

But it's also comforting because then you're like, you know, I've been there too.

I don't feel so alone after like a divorce or like, God forbid, a miscarriage.

Or it's like high stakes moments.

It's nice to feel like, oh my God, other people have gone through this too.

It can be comforting.

Totally.

Totally escapism.

Let's not turn this into a therapy session.

But also, my friends tell me when they watch it, it's nice to have your intuition and your suspicions validated about someone.

Or when you're listening to one of your podcasts, one of your episodes, or watching Vanderpump Rules, like, I knew it.

I knew it all along.

Yes.

It sort of reaffirms your instincts, right?

Yeah.

And I think, yeah, so there are a lot of parallels.

And it's like there is a voyeuristic aspect to it or like a morbid curiosity.

Like almost everyone I know has seen Two Girls, One Cup.

They know it's going to be disgusting.

But there's almost like a camaraderie, a morbid curiosity.