Tom Steyer

I agree.

And we have to do that.

I mean, I know that across the board, big political action committees,

and independent expenditures from billionaires and big corporations are dominating our politics and people are absolutely scared of them and they won't say boo.

But I think the other thing, and I think I completely agree with what you just said, Jennifer, and I want to say this, for the last, I guess it's,

Eight years?

No, 10 years.

Democrats' basic point is that the sort of status quo, we're not Donald Trump.

It's like, okay, that's good.

What are you?

What are you?

And there's been no vision of what America is supposed to look like that works for working people.

And that's very much what I'm trying to do in this campaign to talk about how are we going to make it possible for working people to buy a house?

We have to be able to do that.

How are we gonna make sure that healthcare is a right that everybody gets at a price they can afford?

How are we gonna do that?

That's why I'm for single payer.

But it goes right down the line of, in order to do some of these things, you're gonna have to take on the corporate powers that be that have it their way.

And if you're not willing to do that, then what's your vision?

Our vision is sort of like more of same, but we're not gonna be thieves and we're not actually vicious.