Tommy Vitor

All right, Ben, we also want to check in on there's like flurry of immigration news happening every day and trying to follow it beyond just the day's headlines, I think is important. So last week we saw these reports of 170 Venezuelan migrants flown from Guantanamo to Venezuela.

All right, Ben, we also want to check in on there's like flurry of immigration news happening every day and trying to follow it beyond just the day's headlines, I think is important. So last week we saw these reports of 170 Venezuelan migrants flown from Guantanamo to Venezuela.

The Washington Post had a story documenting the horrific conditions on the ground at this Gitmo camp that we've talked about in the past, where the Trump people say they're going to house up to 30,000 migrants. The conditions we're talking about include solitary confinement, people getting strip searched, people being shackled and caged when they're allowed outside.

The Washington Post had a story documenting the horrific conditions on the ground at this Gitmo camp that we've talked about in the past, where the Trump people say they're going to house up to 30,000 migrants. The conditions we're talking about include solitary confinement, people getting strip searched, people being shackled and caged when they're allowed outside.

The Washington Post had a story documenting the horrific conditions on the ground at this Gitmo camp that we've talked about in the past, where the Trump people say they're going to house up to 30,000 migrants. The conditions we're talking about include solitary confinement, people getting strip searched, people being shackled and caged when they're allowed outside.

And despite the administration's claim that everyone getting sent to Gitmo were the worst of the worst, they're violent criminals, they're gang members, they're murderers. That's just not true. CNN reported that 51 of the 177 had no criminal record at all.

And despite the administration's claim that everyone getting sent to Gitmo were the worst of the worst, they're violent criminals, they're gang members, they're murderers. That's just not true. CNN reported that 51 of the 177 had no criminal record at all.

And despite the administration's claim that everyone getting sent to Gitmo were the worst of the worst, they're violent criminals, they're gang members, they're murderers. That's just not true. CNN reported that 51 of the 177 had no criminal record at all.

And then separately, the New York Times had this devastating piece and the Daily did a version of it that's worth listening to about a bunch of migrants that had been deported from the US and were sent to Panama. These were people from all around the world.

And then separately, the New York Times had this devastating piece and the Daily did a version of it that's worth listening to about a bunch of migrants that had been deported from the US and were sent to Panama. These were people from all around the world.

And then separately, the New York Times had this devastating piece and the Daily did a version of it that's worth listening to about a bunch of migrants that had been deported from the US and were sent to Panama. These were people from all around the world.

there was a guy from china there was a person from iran who had converted to christianity many of them were asylum seekers and they were all just shipped to panama and then they got locked in these hotel rooms they didn't know what was going on they were they couldn't contact anyone there was people killing themselves like absolutely awful and basically what happened was they were offered uh some sort of opportunity to get repatriated to their home country or their country of origin for many that is an impossibility because they would be killed or put in prison

there was a guy from china there was a person from iran who had converted to christianity many of them were asylum seekers and they were all just shipped to panama and then they got locked in these hotel rooms they didn't know what was going on they were they couldn't contact anyone there was people killing themselves like absolutely awful and basically what happened was they were offered uh some sort of opportunity to get repatriated to their home country or their country of origin for many that is an impossibility because they would be killed or put in prison

there was a guy from china there was a person from iran who had converted to christianity many of them were asylum seekers and they were all just shipped to panama and then they got locked in these hotel rooms they didn't know what was going on they were they couldn't contact anyone there was people killing themselves like absolutely awful and basically what happened was they were offered uh some sort of opportunity to get repatriated to their home country or their country of origin for many that is an impossibility because they would be killed or put in prison

And so when they refused, they were sent to this squalid camp by the edge of the jungle near the Darien gap. And so, you know, Ben, I'm sure what's happening, the optics of it, some of the reporting, I bet it is having a turn effect. There are probably people who are like, oh, my God, this is like inhuman. I don't want to go to the U.S. now.

And so when they refused, they were sent to this squalid camp by the edge of the jungle near the Darien gap. And so, you know, Ben, I'm sure what's happening, the optics of it, some of the reporting, I bet it is having a turn effect. There are probably people who are like, oh, my God, this is like inhuman. I don't want to go to the U.S. now.

And so when they refused, they were sent to this squalid camp by the edge of the jungle near the Darien gap. And so, you know, Ben, I'm sure what's happening, the optics of it, some of the reporting, I bet it is having a turn effect. There are probably people who are like, oh, my God, this is like inhuman. I don't want to go to the U.S. now.

But more importantly, I think for us is that it's highlighting how difficult this mass deportation effort is going to be, because if the government knew where all the worst of the worst violent undocumented offenders were, they would already have been sent home, but they don't. Right. So what's happening is they're deporting fewer people than Trump wants.

But more importantly, I think for us is that it's highlighting how difficult this mass deportation effort is going to be, because if the government knew where all the worst of the worst violent undocumented offenders were, they would already have been sent home, but they don't. Right. So what's happening is they're deporting fewer people than Trump wants.

But more importantly, I think for us is that it's highlighting how difficult this mass deportation effort is going to be, because if the government knew where all the worst of the worst violent undocumented offenders were, they would already have been sent home, but they don't. Right. So what's happening is they're deporting fewer people than Trump wants.