Tommy Vitor

That's, it's remarkable. I mean, I think, what I think the take home, I think I just wanted folks to get out of this interview as well, a little bit of understanding about the crypto world. but also how much money Trump is making personally off of crypto, what an unbelievable avenue the crypto world is for corruption and for steering money into his pockets at times in ways that can be secret.

That's, it's remarkable. I mean, I think, what I think the take home, I think I just wanted folks to get out of this interview as well, a little bit of understanding about the crypto world. but also how much money Trump is making personally off of crypto, what an unbelievable avenue the crypto world is for corruption and for steering money into his pockets at times in ways that can be secret.

And then there's just the broader fact that he's the president of the United States and he's going to make an enormous number of incredibly consequential decisions in the next four years about how crypto is regulated. So it just seems like this just couldn't be more fucked up just in terms of a setup for corruption and abuse and fraud at the highest level of the US government.

And then there's just the broader fact that he's the president of the United States and he's going to make an enormous number of incredibly consequential decisions in the next four years about how crypto is regulated. So it just seems like this just couldn't be more fucked up just in terms of a setup for corruption and abuse and fraud at the highest level of the US government.

And then there's just the broader fact that he's the president of the United States and he's going to make an enormous number of incredibly consequential decisions in the next four years about how crypto is regulated. So it just seems like this just couldn't be more fucked up just in terms of a setup for corruption and abuse and fraud at the highest level of the US government.

But I mean, here we are, I guess. Well, Zeke, thank you so much for explaining all this to me. I'm laughing so that I don't cry, in part because I didn't buy cryptocurrency at any point along the last decade. And that was a real mistake by me. But thank you so much for explaining it to all of us. I appreciate it.

But I mean, here we are, I guess. Well, Zeke, thank you so much for explaining all this to me. I'm laughing so that I don't cry, in part because I didn't buy cryptocurrency at any point along the last decade. And that was a real mistake by me. But thank you so much for explaining it to all of us. I appreciate it.

But I mean, here we are, I guess. Well, Zeke, thank you so much for explaining all this to me. I'm laughing so that I don't cry, in part because I didn't buy cryptocurrency at any point along the last decade. And that was a real mistake by me. But thank you so much for explaining it to all of us. I appreciate it.

You're right. You're right. I always hope for a better tomorrow. Thanks, Zeke.

You're right. You're right. I always hope for a better tomorrow. Thanks, Zeke.

You're right. You're right. I always hope for a better tomorrow. Thanks, Zeke.

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Plus, find Pod Save the World on YouTube for access to full episodes, bonus content, and more. If you're as opinionated as we are, consider dropping a review. Pod Save the World is a Crooked Media production. Our producer is Alona Minkowski. Our associate producer is Michael Goldsmith. Our executive producers are me, Tommy Vitor, and Ben Rhodes.

The show is mixed and edited by Andrew Chadwick and engineered by Vassilis Vatopoulos. Audio support by Kyle Seglin and Charlotte Landis. Madeline Herringer is our head of news and programming. Matt DeGroat is our head of production. Andy Taft is our executive assistant.

The show is mixed and edited by Andrew Chadwick and engineered by Vassilis Vatopoulos. Audio support by Kyle Seglin and Charlotte Landis. Madeline Herringer is our head of news and programming. Matt DeGroat is our head of production. Andy Taft is our executive assistant.

The show is mixed and edited by Andrew Chadwick and engineered by Vassilis Vatopoulos. Audio support by Kyle Seglin and Charlotte Landis. Madeline Herringer is our head of news and programming. Matt DeGroat is our head of production. Andy Taft is our executive assistant.