Tommy Vitor

But according to a report in Fox News, what was discussed today in Riyadh was a three-stage plan that includes a ceasefire, elections in Ukraine, and then a final peace agreement in Ukraine. They're operating under this martial law declaration. Zelensky, I think, understandably says he can't hold an election in the middle of a war. He needs the fighting to end to safely hold an election.

But according to a report in Fox News, what was discussed today in Riyadh was a three-stage plan that includes a ceasefire, elections in Ukraine, and then a final peace agreement in Ukraine. They're operating under this martial law declaration. Zelensky, I think, understandably says he can't hold an election in the middle of a war. He needs the fighting to end to safely hold an election.

But according to a report in Fox News, what was discussed today in Riyadh was a three-stage plan that includes a ceasefire, elections in Ukraine, and then a final peace agreement in Ukraine. They're operating under this martial law declaration. Zelensky, I think, understandably says he can't hold an election in the middle of a war. He needs the fighting to end to safely hold an election.

So this U.S. demand that Ukraine hold new elections is pretty shocking.

So this U.S. demand that Ukraine hold new elections is pretty shocking.

So this U.S. demand that Ukraine hold new elections is pretty shocking.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That is wild. I mean, yeah, the fighting's ongoing. Putin's hardly a democratically elected leader. There's a pretty recent history of the Russians intervening in meddling in Ukrainian elections. So yeah, it's all a mess. All of this happens.

That is wild. I mean, yeah, the fighting's ongoing. Putin's hardly a democratically elected leader. There's a pretty recent history of the Russians intervening in meddling in Ukrainian elections. So yeah, it's all a mess. All of this happens.

That is wild. I mean, yeah, the fighting's ongoing. Putin's hardly a democratically elected leader. There's a pretty recent history of the Russians intervening in meddling in Ukrainian elections. So yeah, it's all a mess. All of this happens.

These talks in Riyadh happened a couple days after Pete Hexeth gave a speech in Brussels at NATO, where he said it was unrealistic for Ukraine to ever join NATO. or get back the territory they lost since 2014. Trump kind of, they tried to walk back the Hegseth speech, then they walked back the walk back. So it doesn't matter. Ben, let's pause there.

These talks in Riyadh happened a couple days after Pete Hexeth gave a speech in Brussels at NATO, where he said it was unrealistic for Ukraine to ever join NATO. or get back the territory they lost since 2014. Trump kind of, they tried to walk back the Hegseth speech, then they walked back the walk back. So it doesn't matter. Ben, let's pause there.

These talks in Riyadh happened a couple days after Pete Hexeth gave a speech in Brussels at NATO, where he said it was unrealistic for Ukraine to ever join NATO. or get back the territory they lost since 2014. Trump kind of, they tried to walk back the Hegseth speech, then they walked back the walk back. So it doesn't matter. Ben, let's pause there.

So like, we should not be surprised that these talks are happening given what Trump said he was going to do in the election. But it is still, like we started, this is a seismic shift in US foreign policy. There are global repercussions. It comes after JD Vance went to Germany. and effectively told the Europeans to fuck off. We'll get to that in a minute.

So like, we should not be surprised that these talks are happening given what Trump said he was going to do in the election. But it is still, like we started, this is a seismic shift in US foreign policy. There are global repercussions. It comes after JD Vance went to Germany. and effectively told the Europeans to fuck off. We'll get to that in a minute.

So like, we should not be surprised that these talks are happening given what Trump said he was going to do in the election. But it is still, like we started, this is a seismic shift in US foreign policy. There are global repercussions. It comes after JD Vance went to Germany. and effectively told the Europeans to fuck off. We'll get to that in a minute.

But what did you make of like the talks in Saudi Arabia that you've seen in the proposals that have leaked out so far?

But what did you make of like the talks in Saudi Arabia that you've seen in the proposals that have leaked out so far?