Tommy Vitor

She worked as a foreign minister.

She speaks English and French.

One expert I was talking to said, you know, she's corrupt as hell, but she's not a drug runner.

You know, she's like not corrupted that way, which probably makes her more palatable to the Trump people.

Her brother is also like a very well-known quantity with the U.S.

government.

He's part of lots of talks in the U.S.

However, like they're a big problem for Rodriguez is what she does not control, which what you were alluding to, like she's not in charge of the military.

That is the defense minister, Pedrino Lopez.

She is not in charge of the intelligence agencies that's predominantly handled by Diosdado Cabello.

Those who are also they have the most control over these colectivo agents.

paramilitary groups that we mentioned earlier.

So Ben, the questions you just raised are all the ones I have.

Is she really in charge?

I don't know.

Can she stay in charge?

Because ultimately the guys with the guns tend to end up in charge in these situations.

And there's just all these ways that these strong men around her can pull cords subtly to make her tenure as president end.

Right.

Yep, that's right.