Tony Hawk

So I kind of, you know, I went, I lived through the lean years.

I did what I could to make ends meet.

And then X Games came around, uh,

you know, we had our video game, a lot of success.

We did a huge tour.

That's when I'm in my early 30s.

And I was riding that wave and it felt kind of surreal, but also I was so fixated on the actual skating that I kind of lost sight of relationships, like personal relationships, truly.

Because suddenly it was like all this, all my life that I've devoted to the skating is suddenly appreciated.

on a scale that I never would have imagined.

Um, it's just a lack of intimacy and... Emotional?

Emotional, yeah.

And then I don't want to blame, I'm not going to blame my upbringing, but that was the example that I was, that I saw growing up.

So I didn't really have any other example to emulate.

But regardless, like I could have, you know, I could have paused and maybe tried to figure all that out.

But I was on this rocket ship of success and I chased that.

And then at some point,

The fame aspect of it.

I never got into skateboarding to be rich or famous.

You couldn't be rich or famous skateboarding when I was a kid.

Right.