Tony Johnson

Yeah, that's right.

Because this always comes around every year.

This was the rugby championship version.

It wasn't the world champs.

So it's kind of like a warm-up.

You can see the beginnings of these teams before they move on to the world champs later in the year.

What did you make of the campaign and what is always kind of a hot button topic because every country, every media seems to seize on it and go, oh, well, you know, things are looking great or they're looking terrible.

And in New Zealand's case, we've had a few years of it sort of foreshadowing potential disasters for the All Blacks.

Which haven't.

quite happened.

Certainly not at that level.

This is my biggest.

I feel like if we get into this, we're going to be here all day.

But we started talking about referees.

We finished talking about referees, talking about the Royals.

I feel like this is not going to be the last time we're going to be going over stuff like this this year, unfortunately.

But TJ, thanks very much for your time.

Loved having you in here and going over that.

Like I said, massive game on this weekend.

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