Tony Lyons

And you're not going to be able to do that and really make progress unless you're willing to get every conceivable voice at the table.

We don't want to substitute one kind of settled science for a new kind of settled science.

We've been called anti-vaxxers, anti-science, conspiracy theorists, dangerous.

But those are pharmaceutical company talking points.

We want everybody at the table, and we want to fight head to head with the facts.

We want real science.

That's what we really fought for, not to end science and to start to tell people that we know the truth.

We want dialogue and debate, and that's what this is all about.

You know, nobody controls us.

The idea is that the medical freedom movement or the Maha movement, you know, that we're all fighting each other.

But really, that's not by accident.

You know, these are people who we're at war with and they have such an incredible playbook and they use every trick in the book and they invent new tricks every day.

So what they're doing now is they're activating dissidents.

So they know that the medical freedom movement, that the Maha movement, that all these people who've been pro-Secretary Kennedy for the last 20 years, they know that we're fighters, that we're questioning the status quo, that we always do that.

So they take people who disagree with Secretary Kennedy on one issue and they amplify the hell out of them.

And they find people who criticize Bobby, and they try to make it a much bigger story than it is.

So, you know, there are people on one side saying Bobby Kennedy is not working fast, you know, that he's not getting enough done.

And then there are the other people who are saying that he's anti-science, he's crazy, he's dangerous to their profits, and that he's getting too much done and that we should slow him down.

So they do all of these different projects.

It's an incredible SIA in a battle for freedom, but also a battle for health.