Tony Mantor

If you would, give us a little background on how you got involved in what you're doing.

With all this happening, what changed?

You've gone all through this.

You've seen everything that you've seen.

I know you work with legislators and senators.

I'm curious, what do you see as the big challenge?

You just brought up that a lot of the hospitals have been closed over the last few decades and the prisons have become the de facto hospitals.

How do we get around that so this can stop, so that these people can get treated with a little more respect?

Because as you said, if a person doesn't have any lived experience on this, they don't know what the heck is happening.

They do not understand this.

We have to somehow get it across to them because actually I was one of those people.

I didn't get it.

It wasn't until I started interviewing people on my podcast earlier this year that I started to get an idea of what was happening.

And I still don't know what's going on.

No one ever does unless they're living it.

If I heard of some bad thing that happened,

I used to think, oh, it's a bad person, put him in jail.

Now I want to know more to see if it's just a person that the system failed.

So how do we get out of this situation where the system just keeps failing these people?

Well, I've seen that movie.