Tony Schaefer
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Nov 2024
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And I think Pete's smart enough to know what he doesn't know and look for help.
I think there was either four or five. Yeah, I have to go back and look, but yes, there were a number.
No doubt. And remember, this is not the first time they picked someone very young to come in with relatively little industrial experience to do this. Remember, John Layman. John Layman was appointed when he was still a serving commander. In fact, I've heard stories Mike, of John Layman, Commander John Layman, showing up to do a trap on an aircraft carrier and the crew freaking out.
It's like, you know, that's the Secretary of the Navy. He's like, well, he's just here for reserve duty. He's like, yeah, right. So I'm just saying that this has happened before. In 81, Reagan appointed a very young John Layman to be Secretary of the Navy, to turn the Navy around, and he did it. So just saying. Yeah.
I was serving military case officer for most of my career in our version of the DO, in different organizations within DOD. I ran the first undercover cyber unit, Stratus Ivy, where we did all the things that the IOC now does, if you know what IOC is, the Information Operations folks. I served time in Afghanistan.
I wrote a book about it, Operation Dark Heart, where I served with McChrystal and Lloyd Austin. I actually worked for Lloyd Austin. And after that, I came back, was a whistleblower on 9-11 failures on something called Able Danger. That's how I kind of diverted from my career into politics. And from there, I ended up working and becoming essentially a think tank guy.
Ran the London Center for Policy Research in New York. I currently run something called Project Sentinel. Wrote a couple of books, Operation Dark Heart, regarding my experiences. Was on the Trump transition team in 2016. advised the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Joe Dunford, when he was chairman, ended up advising a bunch of folks like Tulsi and others.
So I ended up kind of getting stuck doing media and politics. So that's why I'm here. And I know these folks because I've worked with them in some form. So I appreciate you giving me the time, Mike, to help inform your audience of some of the things that I've experienced directly. And I hope I better help them understand what's going on with these folks and why Trump or President Trump picked them.
Man, he's kind of the canary in the coal mine, right? Speaking of turning the temperature down. First off, let me say for the record, Matt Gaetz was not abducted by aliens. Whatever they say, that did not happen. Just saying. So let's be clear on that. So let me give two grades on this, Mike, since you put me on the spot here.
So Matt's choice to have Matt be the canary in a coal mine, it's a solid A. It's like, okay, if you want to have distraction from all the other nominees, nominate Matt Gaetz. So that's probably an A to trough more than Gaetz, but it's like, He's the he's the guy they're going to look at regarding the choice. I think I look, I give it a B plus because, well, he's not a law enforcement guy.
He's willing to do and say things others would not be willing to do. And so I think that that's why people are freaking out, because they know he's going to be fearless. He's got nothing to lose. And come on, let's face it. You and I don't know men who have nothing to lose and and they don't stop. So I think that's what they're afraid. Yeah, there you go.
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