Tony Walker

just that oddness whereby the world is, it looks like our world, but there are, it just is, it's shifted slightly or more than slightly.

Yeah.

It's just off.

Yeah.

A lot of sort of daytime novels, daytime stories, they have a daytime logic that is very similar to the logic we live by, you know, when we're awake.

But this story...

had the feel of you know dreams are more symbolic aren't they that then if they mean something it isn't necessarily because a leads a leads to b it's more like they have a resemblance or a feeling or or a or an aura if you like and that's definitely i've definitely got that there so so what however after saying that returning to the story itself

So there's a reversal, isn't there?

Matthew becomes, tell me what he becomes.

extrapolated upon if possible too so yeah no i agree with you completely what you said i mean once we understand something we can box it away and it doesn't have that dread so there's a lot of what you said in fact i think i agree completely with everything you said you know that definitely lovecraftian thing going on as well the the cosmic horror you know we are some kind of little insects and sometimes pray for things that really don't care about us

The question I have to you, I mean, to what extent did you know what they were and withheld it?

Or to what extent were you yourself not committing to what these creatures were?

And the other creature is the golem figure.

the big monster, the sort of Frank, I don't know if he is Frankenstein's monster.

What's he about?

What's he about?

And then there's the other thing, you know, the mirror episode whereby Matthew then becomes mute.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

and the doctors can't explain it.

And then he starts writing.