Tory Burch

And I adore him now, but what he put me through is just hard to believe.

I mean, I feel like work was a bit of a refuge.

and a safety.

It was for me, I've always wanted to think about culture and an environment for women.

And I, in a way, built that for myself.

And it was a place where I could go and feel safe.

And not that it was unsafe being with him, but it was a terrible time.

And so I think that I had this relentless drive.

I'm not sure exactly where that came from, or I think I might.

I've always, you know, thinking a lot about our conversation, I thought a lot about ambition and I've always been ambitious, even though I didn't

realize that's what I was.

Like even from working at Benetton in high school or starting a sorority at Penn or whatever it was, I didn't realize that it was a negative to be that way until this article in the New York Times was written on me.

And I shied away from that word.

So there was an article the first year of our business, and it said, don't call her a socialite.

I recently reread it.

The journalist asked me if I was ambitious.

And at the time, it was a very derogatory expression for women.

And so I clearly shied away from the word in the article.

Jane Rosenthal called me up and she said, great article.

Don't you ever shy away from your ambition.