Tory Burch

It was us putting a lot of money into it from our personal funds that was not a tremendous amount, but for us at the time it was.

And then going to 120 friends and family.

And I was, first of all, terrified about taking people's money.

That was one of the things that kept me up every night.

And I just said to them, invest what you can lose, because I was really worried that I'm doing a startup.

But I said, listen, this is what I'm going to do, but don't put in money that you don't have to lose, because it's a risk.

And I'm a careful risk taker, but I am a risk taker.

And so he never worked with me in the office, but he helped me set the whole company up.

But what we realized, or what I realized very early on,

is fundamentally we're incredibly different the way we saw building a brand.

And I can say that now because, you know, we're great friends now, but it was incredibly rough for a long time.

I mean, going through, well, two things, a very public divorce and having six kids that I love dearly and wanted to protect.

and being a very private person, but then also a very public lawsuit where he decided to build a brand that looked like a cheap version of our brand.

I mean, it was bad.

He would say things in a board meeting, like you're a PR girl.

There's, it was really bad.

And so I can laugh with him about it now because he told me it was a 10 year misunderstanding.

We've moved on.

I've always, I've always wanted to get along with him.

He's the father of my, and he's great.