Trae (Trey) Stephens

It's like the one that just gets no, there's no credit that's given in the emissions process.

Now, to Georgetown's credit, they let me in, which is crazy that I pulled this stunt and ended up going to Georgetown.

But

You know, I think, like, looking back on that, that was 2002, 23 years ago.

Like, it was almost like you could predict the rise of the populist movement in America.

It was like you could have known in 2002 that something is not going right, that this is, like, a core problem.

I mean, what do you think that has done to the country?

Well, I think it's led to these disenfranchised populations where I grew up in Ohio, as we've already talked about, it was just gutted by globalization, by the de-industrialization of the Midwest.

you know, these communities were totally left behind.

And then they got caught up in the opioid epidemic and economic collapse.

And that's ultimately like the community that drove the populism movement that led to Trump's election.

And, you know, I think JD becoming the vice president is very much part of that story.

It's like he's very aware of, you know, how this all happened.

I mean...

Well, Peter has the Teal Fellowship where he pays people to drop out of college.

Yeah, I mean, there's a bunch of –

you know, issues in society that are driven primarily around what was fundamentally a boomer problem.

Like the boomers basically convinced all of their children that that was the path, that like they needed to go to college, that was how you became successful.

But there's not like a bunch of,

white collar jobs that require liberal arts degrees from four-year regional universities.