Travis Kalanick

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TBPN · Inside Travis Kalanick’s Wild New AI Company · 22 Jul 2026 podcast

So I think there's a lot of,

I thought there was a lot of nuance to those three laws, even though the laws are sort of so simple.

I love the intention of those laws.

I sort of think of it a little bit differently, which is I have been entrepreneuring for a long time, like a long time.

And I have failed.

And when I think about why I failed, it's usually because I was building something that nobody liked.

so if you build something that people don't like i don't think you're going to succeed so how does that relate to your question he's like please tell me because i'm not connecting the dots at all what are you talking about well if you make something that is anti-human if you make something that doesn't serve people i don't think you're going to make it

I don't think you're going to make it.

And by the way, like, yes, we're using AI to help us make decisions, et cetera.

But what do those AIs really, really want to do almost too much?

They want to please us.

So I just think if you're not making stuff that humans want, it's not going to work out.

And that's kind of obvious, obviously.

But I think it keeps going.

And, yes, there's the dangers and the things and the myths.

But that's my starting point for how I think about these things and we can't control all the things.

And I do think, of course, you have to have safety situations and there's collisions of like, what do I prioritize first and how do I do it?

Which is, I think, where Asimov's laws go.

But instead of writing sci-fi books, I'm just doing the thing and I'm making sure that the machine stays on the road.

I feel like you're deploying robots that people want.

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