Trent Swanson

I believe it's Amex, Capone, and C. All have relations, meaning you can transfer points into there.

And you want to pursue the single bank that has a relationship with JAL, which is Capital One.

We currently have a bonus of 30%.

So understanding those relationships, you can earn points from many, many banks and many, many programs.

But what program do these points need to be sitting in?

What bucket so I can book the ticket?

What's the bucket they need to be in by when to book that ticket?

And that's really the mechanism to make this happen.

some airlines.

So really it's, it's the loyalty program.

So the place that you deposit earned points into and the place you pull the points from is the loyalty program.

They own the order inventory.

So if you look at Delta and,

SkyTeam is their alliance.

Delta owns its own inventory for its own flights.

They also share some inventory on their partners here, France, Virgin Atlantic.

But the loyalty program determines on whose planes, whether it's their own planes or a partner plane's, what inventory gets made available.

So you've got to get your points in that loyalty program.

You have to know when is the highest propensity for award seats to be released on that program for the destination that you want to go to.

Of course, you have to know how much it costs.