Trevor Noah

Well, Administrator Powell, thank you so much for taking the time.

I know you're dealing with the crisis on the ground, talking to many of these people.

Hopefully it'll be resolved sooner than later.

I appreciate you for joining me on the show.

But you're hitting on another universal point that's really demanding, underlining, and with a red pencil, that...

that the ideologies have truthful, important things in it.

And they quote famous people who say really important things.

So it's not just all BS.

And that's also, as a therapist, that's what I try to do in helping my clients deconstruct.

How did they get hooked?

What were the pieces that hooked them?

And the technique, I'm jumping ahead and I'll circle back to your earlier question, but the technique that's most effective is I empower my clients to understand Chinese communist brainwashing, my model, et cetera, and the technique is this simple.

I ask people to go back to that critical earlier moment when they were getting recruited or they were falling in love with someone who was a malignant narcissist that was gonna ruin their lives.

If you knew then what you know now, what would you say and do differently?

How do you pronounce your last name?

Hassan.

Hassan.

Like Maggie Hassan.

Now you're just adding words.

So Hassan was the cousin of Muhammad in the Muslim religion.