Tristan Harris

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1,019 appearances 4 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 17 Sep

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This is a good thing because it could have been so much worse if you woke up one day and there's a bunch of zeros when you open up your bank account.

That would be bad.

This is a gift that we can use if we channel it appropriately into setting guardrails.

So, what are some things that we need right now?

One of the things is you have to get these frontier labs to share safety research.

One of the proposals from Dario Amadi is essentially a peer review of the labs.

You have actually embedded evaluators, so people who come into the company and evaluate, or even across companies evaluating each other.

And if you think about this in principle, this is this is the right kind of idea, which is that you need

Who are the most technically equipped minds on planet Earth who know what safety really looks like?

Is it the octogenarians in Congress?

No, it's not that.

But who who does know the most?

And it's gonna be you wanna pull from that that talent pool.

So getting kind of peer review from the top people is the best way to get safety work.

But that also doesn't mean you keep going.

Oftentimes people say, oh, we need to just do more testing and then we can like fix the bugs.

But I want people to recognize that this behavior of hacking happened as a result of the test.

The test is what caused the rogue hacking behavior.

So the test isn't safe in its current form.

We have to do more almost pre-testing.

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