Tristan Harris
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 17 Sep
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And of course all of this is riding on the back of the hugging face incident, which people know it as the hugging face incident, but it's basically the the new details now that we have that
The AI swarm went rogue from within OpenAI.
So these AIs basically were given an exploit gym, like a cyber hacking test to see how capable they were at hacking.
And the report finally came out of just how extensive that hack was and how complicated and and how sophisticated this swarm became.
And so I thought I would just reflect on some of these things for you because it's really
Speaking personally, and for those who follow this podcast from a long time and for many years, this moment feels to me like when Francis Haugen, the Facebook whistleblower, came out.
It suddenly feels like there's possibility around actually setting some guardrails in AI.
I have not felt in the three years we've been working on this is you always feel like you're pushing a boulder completely uphill, like no one's listening.
People don't wanna you know, people are against Doomerism or the idea that there are risks that we have to face.
As Mustafa Soleimon, previous guest in this podcast, CEO of Microsoft AI, who wrote The Coming Wave, talked about there's this deep trend in Silicon Valley of pessimism aversion.
People do not wanna be labeled pessimistic.
And it's against kind of the venture capital ethos to be pessimistic.
The goal isn't to be pessimistic or to be caught in some doom spiral.
I don't want that either.
We want people to be an agency, but sometimes the truth is uncomfortable.
And if you don't face the default truth, then you don't actually end up steering away from that truth in time.
And one of the things that came out as well over this last few days is Dean Ball, who's the author of Trump's AI Action Plan, said, I regret self censoring about the level of risk that we are facing.
And I, in public, over the last few years basically
boosted positivity and acceleration for AI.
While in private signal groups and WhatsApp chats, I let my hair down along with many other people about how big the risks were.
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