Tristan Harris

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1,019 appearances 4 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 17 Sep

Tristan Harris’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Your Undivided Attention · Enough Debate about the AI Jobpocalypse. We Need To Plan for the Messy Middle. · 13 Aug 2026 podcast

Now, I just want to keep going here.

So in the debate between economists and technologists, or the kind of AI crowd, the economists will often say to the AI folks, now, you don't know enough about the laws of economics.

And then the technologists or AI folks will say, well, you're naive about the technology.

You're actually fighting the last war.

You don't really understand that AGI is a paradigmatic change.

And now you're an economist who really stays up at night on the tech frontier here.

Do you agree that our old economic models are really not up to the test to handle this disruption from AI?

And it has happened so many times throughout history that we were afraid, and then we actually always found something else to do.

And so that does provide a grounded reason for reassurance.

But then it comes back to, is this fundamentally a different kind of thing or not?

This is a great place to double click, because you said it, you kind of very succinctly articulated in your piece, comparing it to the deindustrialization baseline.

So why could the knowledge class version of what happened in deindustrialization be worse?

there are

They're the ones who make a lot of the economy.

They're paying restaurants.

They're going out.

They're doing travel.

And so suddenly when that base disappears, again, your analysis is this sort of systemic and cascade kind of view of here's how these things grow.

So it's not, as you said, the net jobs or not.

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