Tristan Harris

You need large clusters of compute right now, to your point, in the future it may shift.

But right now, you need large clusters of compute.

You need advanced semiconductor manufacturing supply chains.

Right now, that's a set of US allies, the Trilat.

I believe it's Denmark, Japan, South Korea, obviously Taiwan.

We could create some kind of infrastructure for not some totalitarian control of compute, just a governance regime.

Would you call the IAEA totalitarian or would you call it a governance regime for a dangerous destructive nuclear capacity?

I'm not saying any of this is easy.

We have to navigate the narrow path.

We don't want to create totalitarian controls.

We don't want to create runaway catastrophes.

What it takes is being committed to finding that path.

How much time or energy or resources have we spent even trying?

People say it's impossible.

Have you spent a month dedicatedly trying?

People say it's impossible.

Have we spent any amount of resources actually trying to do this?

I think the people, rather than it sounding like I'm some kind of pause or stop person, the people building this technology have basically said that that's what they would most prefer.

They would most prefer a world where we basically stopped and had the time to integrate and develop this technology slowly.

That's what they would prefer.