Tristan Harris

But imagine you can kind of feel a little bit of what it's like to be in 2020 or 2024 in terms of culture and what the dumpster fire of culture has turned into, the problems with children's mental health and psychology and anxiety and depression.

But imagine seeing that in 2013.

You know, I had friends back then who have reflected back to me.

They said, Tristan, when I knew you back in those days, it was like you were seeing this kind of slow motion train wreck.

You just looked like you were traumatized.

You look a little bit like that now.

Do I?

Oh, I hope not.

My friends used to call it not PTSD, which is post-traumatic stress disorder, but pre-TSD, of having pre-traumatic stress disorder, of seeing things that are going to happen before they happen.

And that might make people think that I think I'm

you know, seeing things early or something, that's not what I care about.

I just care about us getting to a world that works for people.

I grew up in a world that, you know, a world that mostly worked.

You know, I grew up in a magical time in the 1990s, 1980s, 1990s.

And, you know, back then using a computer was good for you.

You know, I used my first Macintosh and did educational games and learned programming and it didn't cause mass loneliness and mental health problems.

And,

you know, break how democracy works.

And it was just a tool and a bicycle for the mind.

And I think the spirit of our organization, Center for Humane Technology, is that that word humane comes from my co-founder's father, Jeff Raskin, actually started the Macintosh project at Apple.