Tristan Harris
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And that's why AGI is the most powerful technology that can never be invented.
And it's why Demis Hassabis, the co-founder of DeepMind, said that the first goal is to solve intelligence and then use intelligence to solve everything else.
And I'll just add one addendum to that, which is when Vladimir Putin said, whoever owns artificial intelligence will own the world.
I would amend Demis Hassabis' quote to say, first dominate intelligence, then use intelligence to dominate everyone and everything else.
Whether that's the mass concentration of wealth and power, all these companies that are racing to get that, or militaries that are adopting AI and getting a cyber advantage over all the other countries, or you get the picture.
And so AI is distinct from other technologies because of these properties that we just laid out.
Yes, I do believe that it is bigger than all of those things as we get to
generalized intelligence, which would be more fundamental than fire or electricity.
Because again, intelligence is what brought us fire, it's what brought us electricity.
Now I can fire up an army of geniuses in a data center.
I've got 100 million Thomas Edison's doing experiments on all these things.
This is why Dario Amadei would say,
we can expect getting 10 years of scientific advancement in a single year or 100 years of scientific advancement in 10 years.
Now, what you're just pointing to is the hype, the bubble, the fact that there's this huge overinvestment.
We're not seeing those capabilities exist yet, but we are seeing crazy advances that people would have never predicted.
If I said go back three years and I said we're going to have AIs that are winning gold in the math Olympiad,
able to hack and find new cyber vulnerabilities in all open-source software, generate new biological weapons.
You would have not believed that that was possible four years ago.
Well, um, so our team was expert advisors, uh, on the character.ai suicide case.
This is, um, Sewell Setzer, who's a 14 year old young, young man who basically, for people who don't know what character.ai is, it was, or it still is, I guess, a, uh, company funded by Andreessen Horowitz, uh, started by two of the original authors of the thing that brought us chat DPT.