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Tristan Harris

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Why Superintelligence Won’t Cure Cancer

So we could hit a button, and it's already true, by the way, just for listeners, Paul Erdős, who was a mathematician in the 1940s, he laid out these math problems in the 70s that had never been solved.

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Why Superintelligence Won’t Cure Cancer

And just recently, in the last few months, AI has actually made progress and solved those math problems.

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Why Superintelligence Won’t Cure Cancer

It's now winning gold in the International Math Olympiad.

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Why Superintelligence Won’t Cure Cancer

It is generating new physics.

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Why Superintelligence Won’t Cure Cancer

So you could actually, just to put listeners through this,

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Why Superintelligence Won’t Cure Cancer

Using the raw rules of physics that we know, you could re-derive everything up to quantum physics with just an AI doing that.

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Why Superintelligence Won’t Cure Cancer

That's mind-blowing.

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Why Superintelligence Won’t Cure Cancer

So you're endorsing that AI could do that, but you're making the distinction that in biology, you have these emergent effects.

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Why Superintelligence Won’t Cure Cancer

It's the complex adaptive nature of biology that's different from other industries.

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Why Superintelligence Won’t Cure Cancer

systems that makes it so hard to model.

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Why Superintelligence Won’t Cure Cancer

And then you gave a quote in there of how much computation it would take to simulate.

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Why Superintelligence Won’t Cure Cancer

You said it was what, one week or one minute of the human body would take more than the GPUs on planet Earth and more than the time in the universe?

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Why Superintelligence Won’t Cure Cancer

Correct, yes.

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Why Superintelligence Won’t Cure Cancer

That's crazy.

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Why Superintelligence Won’t Cure Cancer

Okay, let's take the example of COVID.

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Why Superintelligence Won’t Cure Cancer

So, you know, we had this COVID vaccine.

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Why Superintelligence Won’t Cure Cancer

Basically, there was a Operation Warp Speed to figure out how could we take something that was a new disease, a new virus, and we did develop something with super fast deployment.

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Why Superintelligence Won’t Cure Cancer

And I think ASI has thought of it to be Operation Warp Speed for everything.

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Why Superintelligence Won’t Cure Cancer

Like in nine months, we could have cures for everything because that's what this magic genie in a box is going to do.

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Why Superintelligence Won’t Cure Cancer

Could you distinguish why was that possible with COVID that's not possible with cancer?