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Tristan Harris

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2311 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
The AI Dilemma โ€” with Tristan Harris

In general, it's like we've forgotten the most basic principle, which is that every power in society has attendant responsibilities and wisdom.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
The AI Dilemma โ€” with Tristan Harris

Licensing is one way of matching the power of a therapist with the wisdom and responsibility to wield that power.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
The AI Dilemma โ€” with Tristan Harris

And we're just not applying that very basic principle to software.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
The AI Dilemma โ€” with Tristan Harris

And as Marc Andreessen said, when software eats the world, what we mean is we don't regulate software.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
The AI Dilemma โ€” with Tristan Harris

We don't have any guardrails for software.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
The AI Dilemma โ€” with Tristan Harris

So it's basically like stripping off the guardrails across the world that software is eating.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
The AI Dilemma โ€” with Tristan Harris

Yeah, I mean, what people need to get, again, is how did we predict all the social media problems?

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
The AI Dilemma โ€” with Tristan Harris

You look at the incentives.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
The AI Dilemma โ€” with Tristan Harris

So long as you have a race for eyeballs and engagement in social media, you're going to get a race to who's better at creating doom scrolling.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
The AI Dilemma โ€” with Tristan Harris

In AI companions, what was a race for attention in the social media area becomes a race to hack human attachment and to create an attachment relationship, a companion relationship,

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
The AI Dilemma โ€” with Tristan Harris

And so whoever's better at doing that is the race.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
The AI Dilemma โ€” with Tristan Harris

And in the slide deck that the character.ai founders had pitched to Andreessen Horowitz, they joked, either in that slide deck or in some meeting, you can look up this online, they joked, we're not trying to replace Google.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
The AI Dilemma โ€” with Tristan Harris

We're trying to replace your mom, right?

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
The AI Dilemma โ€” with Tristan Harris

So you compare this to the social media thing.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
The AI Dilemma โ€” with Tristan Harris

The CEO of Netflix said in the attention era, our biggest competitor is sleep, right?

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
The AI Dilemma โ€” with Tristan Harris

Because sleep is what's eating up minutes that you're otherwise not spending on Netflix.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
The AI Dilemma โ€” with Tristan Harris

In attachment, your biggest competitor is other human relationships.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
The AI Dilemma โ€” with Tristan Harris

So you talk about those young men.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
The AI Dilemma โ€” with Tristan Harris

This is a system that's getting asymmetrically more billions of dollars of resources every day to invest in making a better supercomputer that's even better at building attachment relationships.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
The AI Dilemma โ€” with Tristan Harris

And attachment is way more of a vulnerable sort of vector to screw with human minds because your self-esteem is coming from attachment.