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Tristan Harris

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Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

what what letter grade would we give ourselves in holding on in like stewarding that tech you know we had better living through chemistry in the 1930s dupont chemistry uh and that was great we invented all sorts of new materials but we also generated forever chemicals and it would it would currently cost more than the gdp of the entire world to clean up the entire mess of forever chemicals

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

You know, we created social media thinking if we give the world access to information at our fingertips and connect people with their friends, this is going to create the most enlightened and informed society than we ever have.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And clearly that didn't go that in the way that we wanted it to.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

So now AI is like the exponentiation of just technology invention writ large, because what makes AI different from all other forms of technology is

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

is that intelligence is the basis of all of our new science, of all of our new technology, of all of our new military development.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

So if you automate intelligence, you're going to automate an explosion of new science, new technology, new military technology.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And if you have more power and more intelligence, but you don't have the wisdom to wield it, that's obviously not going to go well.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

Why can't wisdom be programmed too?

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

Uh, well, in some ways you could say that it can be, uh, it's just that it's, it's not that like wisdom comes from the ether.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

You have to, it's about asking critical questions about how should the technology be designed?

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

So for example, like, do we have to have our entire internet environment have autoplaying videos that swipe one after another?

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

No, we don't have to have that.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

We can have a totally different design paradigm where no one's autoplaying videos.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

wisdom would be understanding that the human psychological, the Paleolithic brain that we are born with has these vulnerabilities in our dopamine system, and we could design to not hijack that dopamine system.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And just imagine for a second, just to like, there's a huge conversation we're having, but if you just imagine that one little change.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

So here's today, everyone has autoplaying videos, infinitely swiping, brain rotting everybody, brain damaging everybody 24-7.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

Test scores are massively down for basically all around the world because of this phenomenon.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

It's very, very clear that the technology and social media is driving that.

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

If you make this one little change of no autoplaying videos...

Modern Wisdom
#1079 - Tristan Harris - AI Expert Warns: “This Is The Last Mistake We’ll Ever Make”

And it means also no, you know, no infinite swipe dating apps that are getting you into a slot machine with player cards of people.