Tristan Harris

I mean, are you surprised by this when you see this?

And that's the thing.

I mean, like, is that a controversial fact?

Do you think that anybody, when they're sitting there doom, doom scrolling for three hours, just like put a thermometer, you know, pain, you know, positive emotion meter in their brain, um,

Are people going to say that they love it?

I mean, it's one of those things where it's short-term good, it feels good in the moment, but it's long-term empty.

Like it's just this high fructose corn syrup for our brain.

Empty calories.

Yeah.

I mean, it's interesting to note that when Elon bought Twitter,

He was already thinking about AI.

And part of what he was thinking about is in the AI race, these companies that are racing to get to artificial general intelligence, one of the ways they differentiate themselves from each other is their training data.

Who has more powerful and more training data for training and growing their digital brain than the other guy?

And Elon thought that he had a competitive advantage because he would have the entire user-generated content of the real-time views of all of humanity in the form of Twitter.

And he could train his AI on that.

And that's what led to Grok.

But of course, when you train essentially an AI on kind of brain-rotted, hyper-polarized, hyper-adversarial, rivalrous, you know, all the problems of Twitter, the outrage economy, you get AIs that are more like this than the better AIs.

And also there's going to be a limit on that, right?

Like it's probably not the case that 10 hours of attention on any social media is good for society or good for you.

Maybe, sure, yeah.