Ty

She was a perspective, and now she's not anymore.

But she was like, listen to your podcast and talking about it and stuff.

I went to the agency, and she looked at a couple different agencies, and she said that she –

got matched or whatever.

And they said that, you know, she wants an open adoption and she's like, okay.

And she's like, and then the agency lady told her like, but you don't have to really do it.

And she was like, I, and I, and I, I thanked her for writing because I was like, thank you so much for being honest.

Cause she's, I walked out of that building.

We should get her on here.

She's like, and I felt, yeah, I felt sick because I can't believe that she just told me that I, it's okay.

Don't worry about it.

And she's like, she's like, I, and she's like now, and now she was a good,

And I said, you need to be louder about it because I don't think people understand that that's kind of how this whole thing works.

What I think comes back to people saying, oh, well, adoption is only bad when it's closed and it's better now because it's open.

Well, Connor, you are an adoptee from an open adoption.

So what was it like?

When did you first –

Yeah.

Well, throughout your open adoption, did you have the freedom to contact your birth mom whenever you wanted?

You had that.