Tyson Yunkaporta

The term Sand Talk is just a modality of conveying information.

It can also be ritualistic, artistic, etc.

But a lot of it's just everyday stuff you do.

You just draw on the dirt to show people places, things, abstract ideas even.

Basically a way of teaching and conveying knowledge.

Yeah, even sitting in a circle and, you know, the old ladies there will be drawing, you know, showing different things in different places, different stories, you know, big ideas.

You know, like 10,000 words would take too long to say, so you show an image.

And it comes through a lot more viscerally and it's super irrational and conveys a lot of knowledge in a very short space of time.

Well, Ilka's pretty amazing.

So she does the feminist fantasy stuff.

Yes.

Celtic kind of.

That's it?

Yeah.

And then there was a sequel.

She described it as a cosmology.

Right.

I mean, every book is a peek into somebody's cosmology.

You know, it's like a fish swimming in water, doesn't know what water is.

It's the same way you look at someone else's cosmology and you go, oh, wow, they got a cosmology.