Tyson Yunkaporta

Everybody else has to justify everything with their story.

It's like, oh, you're a woman.

I need to hear about all that.

Yeah, instead of just being able to write what you want to write.

So they're from, you know, the North Pole pretty much, you know, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark and parts of Russia and then right up.

Yeah, yeah.

So they've got that big totemic connection to reindeer.

And so, you know, I guess you go to these sort of international events with international Indigenous people, you know, all around the world.

And then there's these people who they, you know, they've got yellow hair, blonde hair, like rosy cheeks, you know, blue eyes, all that sort of thing.

And, you know, in the same room with Maoris and

you know, Apaches and all kinds of things.

And, um, you can see everybody doing a double take.

What are they doing here?

But then they start talking and it's like, oh, that's just like talking to Artie or something.

It made me start thinking a lot about, um, color and, and all this sort of thing.

And a lot of the preconceived ideas and attachments we have to, to the, you know, the image of what an indigenous person is and these kinds of racialized ideas of whiteness.

Oh, not for, well, because, you know, I'm looking after very young babies and working full time and then trying to do all this book stuff.

And yeah, this pretty much hasn't been time for a couple of years.

So you just read trash then?

Yeah, like just something that'll put me to sleep at night.