Valentino Stoll
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So I do have a couple of like, you know, Doku apps that I would like to migrate eventually. But I'll probably wait till next year, to be honest, just to like let Rails 8 like settle and have everything more firmed up.
Yeah. You make a great point, like, why have Docker if you have one server?
Yeah, I mean, I feel like it's definitely, like, a foundational choice, right? Like, I think of it as, like, Legos, right? Like, where you have, like, you know, if you just build Legos on a table, like, yeah, that's fine, but you have, like, a sheet where you're, like, sticking the Legos to the build your, you know, thing. It's a lot easier to, to build it as it doesn't move around.
And I don't know, I feel like it's kind of like that as it's like laying the foundation for you to add more stuff that, you know, eventually you're going to need to add it.
You know, I feel like the, the probability of not extending what you have if you actually make something that, you know, you use every day, it's like very low chance that you're not just going to add something new to your stack. And so I like that it's there, right? Like it just, it is like the modular framework for that aspect of things. Yeah.
But at the same time, you know, Docker development is like, it definitely slows you down. Like there are edge cases that you can't even imagine from using platforms, right? Cross-platform use of like a single interface is like, it never works out like smoothly.
Yeah, that's a good point. I mean... distribution of an application that's bundled up. Like if you're not like creating an executable or something, right. Yeah. Like how do you do that? I do like, we had Andy on about, uh, the glimmer project. Right. And I did like, I like that kind of idea of like literally packaging something up as like a binary.
And like, that's how you, I mean, cause that's a great way to ship things. Right. It's like, okay, those cross platform, like distribution is like already set, established and pretty straightforward. And glimmer is one of those frameworks that, uh, makes that process easy. Right. And like the whole, like, uh, you know, Dragon Ruby toolkit for game distribution.
I feel like all that's really missing. And I know that like Andy was mentioning that he's trying to work on that, you know, front end aspect of the Glimmer project. But yeah, that's what's missing is kind of like the web side of that distribution where we have like the browsers now, which I think the... you know, I thought the goal of the browser was to be that distribution platform.
But it's like the competition between the browsers has just like stifled progress, like so much, like it's kind of remarkable. People are just like, okay with that. Like, yeah, we're just going to like, you know, no, no problem. Like all these browsers are competing. So like, we're just not going to have a distribution platform for, you know, web.
I was hopeful with Travel Ruby or something like that that we'd see maybe something a little more progress, but I guess it's hard to sell that, right? If your end users are all distributed, how do you deliver the best thing, right?
That does bring me to another announcement with the Turbo, what is it?
Hotwire Native? Yeah. Yeah, because we did, we had, I'm blanking on his name now.
Yeah, Joe, we had Joe on before a few times, I think. Oh, okay. He was talking about Turbo Native and the progress that he was making there and apparently has been collaborating, right, with 37signals. Yeah. Which is really exciting because I know the last time I was messing around with that, it's, like, pretty decent.
I mean, they're still, like, still got to write some Objective-C or not Objective-C, but, like, Swift and Android. Like, a small amount of code now.
yeah and it it's it's gonna be hard to stay away from it with all this apple intelligence stuff uh now even increasing the hype uh and i imagine you know there's a google version of that out there too uh you know drawing more and more people to their mobile devices yeah quite possibly yeah but i don't know i think
Why?
Yeah.
I will say, like, just taking a step back to the conference again, Rails world. I mean, it is packed. You see the audience in a lot of these photos. And it's kind of exciting to see, you know, people all over the world coming together, making this stuff happen and shipping stuff. It's, you know... There's no way Rails can be dead with that crowd.
Yeah. I mean, it's hard to, you know, it's hard to sell somebody focused on front end, like a framework that they don't understand, uh, And it's, you know, likewise the same way, right? Like I know a lot of front-end people that are like, you know, very happy with, you know, Next.js or something like that. And they're very efficient in it and it makes them productive.
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