Vanessa Dylyn

Hi, Dr. Drew.

Hi, Dr. Drew.

Not at all. As a matter of fact, there was nothing but hostility. from the Canadian landscape when I first pitched this film. And I just became a dog with a bone. So I just happened to finally get a tiny broadcaster in Canada whose commissioning editor happened to be, and this is just the universe moving, He happened to be a former vaccinologist who had worked on the first SARS vaccine.

Not at all. As a matter of fact, there was nothing but hostility. from the Canadian landscape when I first pitched this film. And I just became a dog with a bone. So I just happened to finally get a tiny broadcaster in Canada whose commissioning editor happened to be, and this is just the universe moving, He happened to be a former vaccinologist who had worked on the first SARS vaccine.

And he knew all about the suppression of science. And so I finally found my first level of financing in Canada. And so that's how I started. And I was very motivated to make this film because I had been watching people like Jake. and Scott Atlas and people like Sinatra Gupta at Oxford and Martin Kuhldorf at Harvard.

And he knew all about the suppression of science. And so I finally found my first level of financing in Canada. And so that's how I started. And I was very motivated to make this film because I had been watching people like Jake. and Scott Atlas and people like Sinatra Gupta at Oxford and Martin Kuhldorf at Harvard.

And I had been noticing that as a group of highly credentialed scientists, they had been, when they started to speak out against lockdowns, because apparently there had been no scientific basis for lockdown. Sure. I noticed that they were demonized not only by their own universities, but also by big tech, by major media, and also by medical institutions such as the NIH.

And I had been noticing that as a group of highly credentialed scientists, they had been, when they started to speak out against lockdowns, because apparently there had been no scientific basis for lockdown. Sure. I noticed that they were demonized not only by their own universities, but also by big tech, by major media, and also by medical institutions such as the NIH.

So I thought something is going on here. I just sensed that there was a concerted effort to shut down these credentialed but dissenting views. So that's what started me on this.

So I thought something is going on here. I just sensed that there was a concerted effort to shut down these credentialed but dissenting views. So that's what started me on this.

No, I was just going to say I'm very happy to be on here with Jay because he's one of my heroes.

No, I was just going to say I'm very happy to be on here with Jay because he's one of my heroes.

Yes. I mean, what Dr. Francis Collins does say in our film, and this is probably the last update on the screen, is that he talks about the public health mindset. And he says we, that they in the at the NIH had this public health mindset where their focus was on doing everything to save lives.

Yes. I mean, what Dr. Francis Collins does say in our film, and this is probably the last update on the screen, is that he talks about the public health mindset. And he says we, that they in the at the NIH had this public health mindset where their focus was on doing everything to save lives.

And he did say that that was at the cost of all of the collateral damage, all of the bankruptcies, all of the mental health. He says, but they had, and he actually does say in that interview, that was unfortunate. So I think he is, yes, as Jay says, this is part of the

And he did say that that was at the cost of all of the collateral damage, all of the bankruptcies, all of the mental health. He says, but they had, and he actually does say in that interview, that was unfortunate. So I think he is, yes, as Jay says, this is part of the

Part of that problem as Dr. Scott Atlas points out in his book was that when he was appointed to the Coronavirus And you mentioned this, Jay, that they were not open to data. And what also shocked him was that on the coronavirus task force, there weren't other disciplines present. There weren't.

Part of that problem as Dr. Scott Atlas points out in his book was that when he was appointed to the Coronavirus And you mentioned this, Jay, that they were not open to data. And what also shocked him was that on the coronavirus task force, there weren't other disciplines present. There weren't.

the social scientists present the the the the economists pres the economists present who would have been able to work on that risk benefit ratio of lockdowns what he saw was simply this single-minded focus on lockdowns yeah you want to respond to that no i mean i think that's exactly right i the the that kind of myopia um

the social scientists present the the the the economists pres the economists present who would have been able to work on that risk benefit ratio of lockdowns what he saw was simply this single-minded focus on lockdowns yeah you want to respond to that no i mean i think that's exactly right i the the that kind of myopia um