Vanessa Grigoriadis

They're not looking for, you know, the girls' girls.

They're just like, again, this is like a mainstream story, right?

Out of control monsters.

Yeah, totally.

So what do we do about this?

This is sort of like when people say like, well, you've got to control your kids from getting on the internet.

And I'm like, I'm lying in my bed sleeping and my kid is taking my phone and like showing it my face so that he can get on YouTube.

Like, what are you talking about?

Like, you know, give me a break.

Okay, okay.

But like, so what do we do about this then?

I mean, there's all sorts of two-factor authentication.

Could be 20-factor authentication now, you know?

I personally don't, so I'm not worried about it.

I don't feel bad really for these guys, but there are other people who have crypto who are probably good people.

The vibes are shifting all over the place.

We know that we're living in a time of like immense cultural, political, everything change.

And if part of what goes down is the get rich quick attitude and everybody branding themselves and the total fetishization of multimillionaire culture, I don't think that's a bad thing.

I think people want to blow up the cultural moment we're in.

It's not interesting to a lot of us.