Vanessa Grigoriadis

And Karen knew that Jen was supposed to be at 34 Fairview the night before.

So she was calling Jen to say, where's John?

Where do you think he is?

So they drive to John's house.

They walk into the house and then they all leave John's house.

He's not there, obviously.

They begin driving around Canton and they end up in front of 34 Fairview, where Karen sees almost immediately John's body lying on the snow and

front of and to the left of the front door of the house near the street where there's a little flagpole like in some mulch around it so she immediately sees him goes flying out of the car notably leaves her cell phone on the back seat of the car the cell phone on which she was actually leaving a message for John in the moment so that was the discovery of John she and Carrie are trying to administer emergency aid Jen McCabe calls 9-1-1 eventually the cops arrive he's taken to the hospital

and declared dead at the hospital he wasn't there's a thing with hypothermia when they suspect hypothermia that somebody has to be warm and dead for them to be declared dead and he was cold he clearly was deceased at that point but very often they try to you know resuscitate somebody by warming them up first and then they're able to resuscitate them and they were not able to resuscitate john o'keefe

Brian and Nicole Albert say they slept through.

This huge police response and all the screaming happening in their front yard that they claim that they slept through it.

They never came outside.

It wasn't until Jen McCabe, when they were on the scene for a little bit, went into their house that they understood something happening outside.

But they still didn't come out of the house.

Yes.

In fact, she was upcharged.

She was arrested twice.

And it was the second time she was arrested that they upcharged her to murder.

Her attorney, David Yannetti, at her first arraignment actually evoked the idea of a tragic accident in court.

And whether or not that was because he didn't know all the details or because Karen was still confused about the details, that's unclear today.