Vanessa Marin

Blurted it out.

I was pissed off.

And as you can imagine, that conversation did not go very well.

Like he got really defensive.

He was hurt.

He'd been about to go to sleep.

And now all of a sudden he's being attacked by his wife.

So it did not go very well.

So we decided, you know, years later, once we had finally.

gotten through that tough stage of our relationship started building this business we we kind of went back to that initial idea of conversation and we thought you know i want to help couples talk about their sex life in a more productive and open and positive way so they're not making the same mistake that we did of waiting till there's a problem and then you only talk about the problems

So we laid out, we picked, okay, these are the five conversations that I think every couple, whether you're in a great place or you're really struggling, every couple could benefit from having these five specific conversations.

And we laid them out in a specific order, too.

We really wanted to give couples specific instructions of exactly what to do, exactly what to say, how to say it, when to say it.

So what we start with, the very first conversation is called acknowledgement.

And it's literally just getting comfortable with sex as a topic of conversation.

So most of us, you know, we all grow up being taught to be embarrassed and ashamed of sex.

Like, I don't know about you, but I certainly got that message that, like, sex was taboo.

We don't talk about it openly.

It's inappropriate.

And so none of us have developed that skill of how do I even say the words out loud sometimes, right?