Vanessa Van Edwards

Yeah, to see if they're competent.

So your communication is everything.

That didn't get any money and then it sold for a billion dollars.

He was a very competent individual building his business, right?

He was very smart, intelligent, knew the technology, how to build product, teams, all these things, get sales, whatever it was.

But the warmth wasn't there as well, it seems like, right?

Like the trustworthy, charisma, warmth, confidence.

He's trying to build it back up.

He's like, but we've done this and look what we've got this technology.

Yeah, just say what's on your heart.

Yeah, yeah, just say it organically.

And then he was like a guest shark or whatever, yeah.

The confidence, yeah.

Fascinating.

It's not about what you say, it's how you sit, how you present yourself and your words.

And your words?

I'm curious about this.

There's a big topic out there right now.

I just did a recent interview with Dr. Romney, who is a therapist, psychologist, talking about narcissism a lot today.

Yeah.