Vanessa Van Edwards

Dopamine and also the energy flip wouldn't be so massive. The energy that you're using on your computer is very much output, right? Like you're putting your energy into your machine to create content of some kind. When you go out, it's a feedback. It's back and forth. Having your brain switch from one to the next is very jarring.

Dopamine and also the energy flip wouldn't be so massive. The energy that you're using on your computer is very much output, right? Like you're putting your energy into your machine to create content of some kind. When you go out, it's a feedback. It's back and forth. Having your brain switch from one to the next is very jarring.

And if you already get dopamine from your screen, what's the motivation for going out in person? There's only downsides.

And if you already get dopamine from your screen, what's the motivation for going out in person? There's only downsides.

Yeah, why would you go out? You're already having the best conversations you can do, and you're in control. And look, I don't know, just saying, I think you like control.

Yeah, why would you go out? You're already having the best conversations you can do, and you're in control. And look, I don't know, just saying, I think you like control.

The reason I bring up the control thing is if you are on social media, you are in complete control. You decide how often you scroll. You decide where you click. You decide when you're done with something, you just exit their video. Well, you know, in conversation, if I don't like your answer, I can't go off. I can't turn your volume down. I can't double click on your like.

The reason I bring up the control thing is if you are on social media, you are in complete control. You decide how often you scroll. You decide where you click. You decide when you're done with something, you just exit their video. Well, you know, in conversation, if I don't like your answer, I can't go off. I can't turn your volume down. I can't double click on your like.

I actually have to sit and listen to you. And I think that, you know, if you're in control of your conversations, and even like at this table, you are in control. Like I'm talking a lot, but like you can interrupt me anytime you want, and I will answer whatever question you ask me. And so I wonder, don't be mad at me, if in real conversation, like, I could ask you anything that I want.

I actually have to sit and listen to you. And I think that, you know, if you're in control of your conversations, and even like at this table, you are in control. Like I'm talking a lot, but like you can interrupt me anytime you want, and I will answer whatever question you ask me. And so I wonder, don't be mad at me, if in real conversation, like, I could ask you anything that I want.

Like, right now, I have a thousand questions for you, but I'm trying to not ask them of you.

Like, right now, I have a thousand questions for you, but I'm trying to not ask them of you.

Well, I asked you the one about control, but you didn't really answer. You tossed it back to me. You don't think you're a control freak?

Well, I asked you the one about control, but you didn't really answer. You tossed it back to me. You don't think you're a control freak?

Okay, thank you.

Okay, thank you.

Am I? Yeah.

Am I? Yeah.

He was already laughing. Thank you, Jack.

He was already laughing. Thank you, Jack.