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Varsha Venugopal

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80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

Thanks for having me.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So we're a two-year-old startup nonprofit working on improving uptake of routine immunization in India.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

Two things that are top priorities for us right now.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

One is we're in the middle of an iterative cycle for one of our programs, the ambassador program, to figure out the best ways to scale it up.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

And second, we are planning an upgrade of our monitoring and evaluation system, which will allow us to make a more compelling case for the impact of our programs.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

I think it's a particularly important moment now compared to any other moment because we know for the last couple of years there has been millions of kids who have dropped off in India as well as abroad as a result of COVID-related lockdowns.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

And we have this huge sense of urgency to get these children back on track.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

We have 19 million children who fail to receive their basic vaccinations by the time of their first birthdays each year.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

We know as a result, one child dies every minute because of vaccine preventable disease.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So 19 million children are under-vaccinated.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

And that's a really good question because there is something called the zero dose, which means they haven't received any vaccinations.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

But with these 19 million children, what we are specifically referring to is that they are under-vaccinated, which means they haven't completed their full dose by the time they turn one.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

Yeah, absolutely.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So we know we are talking about vaccines saving two to three million child deaths every year.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

We know there are huge social and economic benefits at both individual and societal levels.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So we know that there are costs related to medical treatments and also related to income and productivity losses, as well as, I mean, one can imagine the whole suffering of family and friends.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

There is also some evidence of association between vaccination and childhood development and educational outcomes.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

I think broadly there is a fair degree of consensus between experts that for every $1 invested in expanding immunization, there are about $60 returns in social, economic and environmental benefits.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So the big countries that are there are Afghanistan, Pakistan, DRC, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Nigeria, and of course, India.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 – Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

India, which of course we'll come to later, has about half of these under-vaccinated children.

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