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Varsha Venugopal

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80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So we would be curious to see where we land.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

But more on the junior data officers, our colleagues are fairly well networked in the space and we have been fairly successful in hiring at that level.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So which would be the biggest hire as we expand?

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

And we don't see that as a major bottleneck.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

Exactly.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

If we were to go with this call center model, the idea is we have this operations manual built out and we can roll that out fairly rapidly and hire people fairly quickly.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

And they'll all be of a certain caliber and trained a certain way.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

In India, one can't work without collaboration with the government partners.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So that's a given.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

It's quite hard, probably impossible to set something up in the charity space without having their buy-in.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

In terms of different ways to go about it, we have already experimented with a couple of different ways.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

In both cases, we work closely with the government partners.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

But in one case, we have people directly going into primary health centers with the assent of the state immunization officer.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

In the other case, we have managed to get the data directly from the state government through the state family welfare bureau.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So there are different pathways.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

And so far, as long as...

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

they see us as credible and supporting their work and their priorities, it's been straightforward.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

Having said that, even with this MOU model in Maharashtra, it took several months of back and forth for us to get that MOU signed.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

So again, going back to that point on replicating to another district versus investing in potential exponential pathways to scale, but lack of clarity on how long that could take.

80,000 Hours Podcast
#113 โ€“ Varsha Venugopal on using gossip to help vaccinate every child in India

You know, there are different ways to think about it.