Vasil Azarov

I mean, yeah.

So one of the things when you start an event, you would have to give away a lot of tickets for free.

So that's just the nature of it.

Um,

and but you need to make sure you do it strategically so even for our conference uh currently this year so uh what we do we allocate certain amount of tickets to uh for some people that we want to see at the event that we want to see at the event that our partners want to see at the event and they might not be necessarily people who would be buying tickets so it's always a

We allocated around 400 of this.

And we also give away some community passes.

These are the passes that don't allow the full access to the event, but just opportunity to get access to networking portion, closing keynote and closing reception.

We're projecting about 1,700 throughout two days of date.

Thank you.

Yeah, we were horrible.

And this is the first year when the breakdown between ticket sales and sponsorships are 50-50.

So back then, I think at our first event, we maybe have two or three sponsors.

Paying how much?

Paying like

Anywhere from five to 20,000, like 15 to 60, like something like 20 grand in sponsor revenue.

Yeah, something like that.

So I thought we were talking about 2015.

We were talking about 2014.

No, the rebrand, the main rebrand just happened this year.