Victor (Vic) Strecher

And then it gives me this profound energy for teaching.

And I think somehow trying to create that approach to your doing can be very helpful.

Well, first of all, thank you, Gretchen, for that wonderful feedback, because when I was saying you need to get over yourself, and I think it was actually Julia, my daughter, telling me I needed to get over myself.

I try to emphasize that it wasn't like you need to get over this.

That was the last thing that I wanted to say.

What I was trying to say is I need to get over my own ego.

I need to transcend my ego.

as opposed to continually ruminate within your own ego, within your own castle wall.

Somehow rise above that castle wall.

Open that drawbridge.

Leave the castle.

Be exposed to other people.

Be exposed to failure.

Be exposed to the potential for not being perfect when you're out there.

Maybe also, I'll never forget a day or two after our daughter passed away, I was walking with a couple of my friends and they were asking what I needed.

And I said, the thing I need is for you to still be my friend when I'm probably not the most attractive person to be a friend with.

I really would hope that they would still be a friend.

So, no, I don't think it's about somehow...

getting over yourself and turning around and, you know, just, you know, battening the hatches and, and you're, you're going out there going, I'm now a stronger person.

Darn it.