Vijay Tella

We do as much with them in the following year as we did to land.

So our expansion business, we're a platform.

a company where like you're, you know, you, you, uh, it's, it's, uh, you know, when, when you're, um, the J hold on, sorry, I want to clear this up.

You know, quite a bit more than that.

I mean, it's like, yes, it's,

It's at least 50% and it's higher when it goes to larger companies.

With existing customers.

Yeah, you know, I don't have the numbers, you know, in front of me, but it's, you know, our, you know, our CAC to our, you know, sort of revenue to CAC ratios are well over once.

We're good with that.

Well over what?

You know, we're, you know, you know, so Nathan, we are like, we don't share out these revenue, these numbers with anyone.

So I'm not, you know, like.

No, I have not.

Here's the situation.

Our company has been around for four or five years.

A lot of our customers have a lot of our revenues.

We've been ramping our revenues fast.

How fast?

We grew 300% last year in 2017.

Um, so, you know, uh, the, the LTV is, you know, is, you know, or, you know, we are still early to kind of talk about LTV because like, you know, we don't see that it's really, you know, much more about expansion.