Vince Chan
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6,989 appearances
347 recordings
1 series
first heard Nov 2024
last heard Jun 2025
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The credit will go to you, of course, and that would make it a Yale creation. That's the day I'm really hoping for.
You talk about music creation. composing, storytelling, and now we're entering a world that's increasingly AI-driven. We already have platforms where people can license soundtracks instantly. More people will use tech tools to generate music on their own. You are a human creator. You are classically trained. and not just trained, but over time, you've developed real skill, real craftsmanship.
So I'm curious, how do you see AI stepping into this space? Do you see it as competition or do you see it as a push to step up your own game and differentiate yourself as a music creator?
Yes, it's really about blending artificial and human intelligence. For me, this show is all about human intelligence. It's about life experience, real experience, human experience, the stories, the insight, the foresight, the hindsight, the heart. None of that can be fully replicated by AI. I'm not even worried about tools that can replicate my voice or my guest's voice.
Because at the end of the day, the way I ask questions is unique. The stories you bring are unique. You are unique. I am unique. The connection between you and me is also unique. This conversation is human-made. Sure, I use AI to check grammar and sentence structure in the show notes or tighten up phrasing, but no tool can replace me as the host, and no tool can replace you as the guest.
It's all about balance between the human and the technology. Speaking of balance, let's go back to something we touched on earlier. the balance between head and heart. We are trained with logic, math, science, economics, but we also carry within us love, music, and the heart. Now you've chosen to follow your heart, but there are people out there who might be where you once were.
Maybe they're younger. Maybe they've fulfilled the expectations placed on them. Played the game well, but don't feel fulfilled. They're still struggling between head and heart. So from where you are now, what would you say to someone who's feeling stuck? Someone trying to decide whether to follow their heart or their head? just how to balance the two.
I feel like you are the perfect person to offer some advice here.
Some might say this sounds philosophical, but really, it's science. When you believe something is possible, your actions start to align with that belief. You try, you keep trying, you keep adjusting, you keep moving forward. But if you tell yourself, nope, it's impossible, you never even start. It's not just mindset, it's behavior, thought plus action.
Jodie Foster, the actor, the director, the producer, and a Yale grad, said it best in her masterclass, all you need to make a movie is pen, paper, and confidence, not fancy tools, just the basics and believe in yourself. That really stuck with me. And honestly, that's what I've lived through too.
Nora, thank you very much for your time tonight. While we live in the same city, we do this virtually, and I really appreciate you take time out of your busy schedule to share so much with me, with us. Thank you very much.
And that's the end for this series. Nora's story reminds us that mastery isn't always loud. And sometimes the most powerful changes begin in stillness. If you've been waiting for permission to go back to something you love, maybe this was it. Thank you so much for joining us today.
If you like what you heard, don't forget, subscribe to our show, leave us top-rated reviews, check out our website, and follow me on social media. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Until next time, take care.
Hi, everyone. Welcome to our show, Chief Change Officer. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Our show is a modernist humility for change progressives in organizational and human transformation from around the world. Today's guest is Nora Chow, fellow Yale alum, former fund manager, and someone whose journey mirrors mind in more ways than one.
We are both from Hong Kong, shaped by the same family and societal expectations to chase money, business, and brand names. We followed the expected path, elite schools, big careers, but eventually stepped away from the weight of titles, status, and what we were supposed to want. In this two-part series,
Nora shares how she returned to music, launched her new album, Referees on Ivory, and built a life that sounds like her, not someone else's script. From headphones to harmonies, this is a story about dropping the labels and choosing the nooks that matter. Let's get into it. Nora, welcome to Chief Change Officer.
Nora and I have known each other for quite some time now through the Yale Club of Hong Kong. Over the years, I've watched your growth and transformation. And I have to admit, I always assumed you've been a musician your entire career, but later you told me yes and no. You are definitely a musician by training, but part of your career actually took quite a different turn into finance.
which happens to be the area I used to work in as well. So I say there's a lot of interesting layers in your journey. Let's start with a big question. Who are you? Tell us a little about yourself. where you're from, what you've done, and what you're doing now. And then we'll dive into different parts of your story and your transformation.
When you first shared your story with me, there were a lot of things I could relate to. Not the singing or composing part. I'm definitely not a trained musician. I did learn piano as a kid, and I enjoy singing. I even did some vocal training later on, but that was more for public speaking. But like you, I was born and raised in Hong Kong.
I took part in all those extracurricular activities growing up, including music. Then, like many of us, you went on to a great school. And at Yale, you chose to major in both music and economics. Can you take us back to that moment? You were around 18, starting college. What were you thinking back then when you chose those two majors? Why not just music or just economics?
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