Vince Chan
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Jun 2025
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Map out the possible risks. Anticipate the bumps. I study finance, so I tend to look at everything through that lens. In finance, we calculate risks, reprice them, we build models to manage them. But in life, most risks cannot be measured on a spreadsheet. So yeah, sometimes you have to take a step forward even when you are unsure. And if one path doesn't work out, it's not the end.
You still got options. Hitting a wall doesn't mean full stop. That's one of the biggest takeaways I've gotten from our conversation today.
I really like the swimming pool analogy because I enjoy swimming myself. I get it. Sometimes you just need to pause, catch your breath. You're tired and you need a break. But after the rest, you get your energy back. You keep moving. You keep breathing. Even when your head underwater, there's a rhythm to it.
We've overran a bit, but I have one or two more quick questions because they tie right into this idea of transformation. You mentioned earlier something that stuck with me, which is don't get stuck in the past or the present. Could you say more about what you mean by that?
I really like the circle metaphor. I think that captures the main idea of your book as well. So this is really my last question for our interview. Your book is called Unstuck, a smart guide to a purposeful career. What are some of the unsmart things people tend to do when they feel stuck
One last thing I want to say about humility and support. Whether it's a coach, a group of like-minded people, or even just one person who gets it, it matters so much. Actually, you probably don't know this. None of my guests do. Each of you is part of my support system. Every time I talk to a guest from somewhere in the world, it reminds me that I'm doing the right thing with the podcast.
There are moments, many moments, when I doubt myself. Of course, we all do. But these conversations with real people who care about change, they ground me. They remind me this is real, this work matters. So yes, support systems are vital.
That might mean hiring a coach, just like hiring a trainer when you go to the gym, or leaning on your family or siblings or friends, assuming they're all trustworthy and available, or simply having conversations with people who share your vision and feelings. That's how we stay afloat. That's how we keep going when things get messy or uncertain. And like you said, failure isn't part of the manual.
Because if we keep moving, learning, adapting, we don't fail. We figure it out. That to me is the key.
No, I'm serious. Every single one of you, I mean it. Each week, I get emails from different people saying, Hey, I'd love to be on your show. Hey, I'd love to be on your show. And I talk to every one of them. For me, even if it turns out they are not the right fit for the podcast, I still make a new connection. And most of the time, they've already checked out my work before reaching out.
So we are already aligned on some level, and that's how we keep the engine moving. Failure? Not an option. Stopping, also not an option.
Before we conclude, is there anything I haven't asked that you would like to share?
And that ends our two-part series with Helen Henderson. From breaking down limiting beliefs to mapping out purposeful action, Helen's approach flips the usual career advice on its head. Redesigning your work life isn't about powering through. It's about pausing, rethinking, and making moves that actually match who you are now.
Hopefully, you're walking away with fresh clarity and maybe even your own hope map. Thank you so much for joining us today. If you like what you heard, Don't forget, subscribe to our show, leave us top-rated reviews, check out our website, and follow me on social media. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Until next time, take care.
Hi, everyone. Welcome to our show, Chief Change Officer. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Our show is a modernist humility for change progressives in organizational and human transformation from around the world. What happens when your shiny successful career starts to feel like a trap? Helen Henderson has the answer. She went from board level PR executive to career coach.
after realizing that the ladder she was climbing was leaning on the wrong wall. In this two-part series, Helen shares how she hit pause, got unstuck, and built a career that actually fits. We'll talk about career detour, tough choices, and why midlife isn't a crisis. is a chance to redesign. If your job looks great on paper, but feels like sandpaper, this one is for you. Let's get into it.
Helen, good morning. Welcome to our show. Welcome to Chief Change Officer.
Let's start with your story. You've gone through quite a transformation yourself, from public relations to branding and now coaching with a focus on career. We'll dive into the why, the how, and everything in between.
You mentioned spending 20 years in public relations. I'm curious, why did you choose that path back then, right off college? It was seen as a glamorous, traditional career. What was going on in your life at the time that led you to it?
I was thinking about your journey in connection with your book. The subtitle talks about building a purposeful career. And it got me wondering, back in your PR days, were you already consciously searching for that sense of purpose? Or is it more something that came into focus later as you gained more experience and perspective over time?
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