Vishy Tirupattur

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74 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 28 Jul

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I think what's happening is that a new sector is coming to the credit markets.
If you look back just a few months ago, the AI ecosystem represented in the benchmark indices were in the investment-grade market, were under 3 percent.
Today, they are over 6 percent, more than doubled in a very short period of time.
When you have this much of supply and the expectation that there is a lot more supply ahead,
and is the crux of the agita that is in the market.
If you step one step back and examine it, it is really the expectations of the CapEx from the AI ecosystem, the hyperscalers included.
There is a pretty substantial amount of upward revisions of CapEx.
Beginning of the year, we thought that the capping by the five hyperscalers in this year will be something around $600 billion in 2026.
We thought the number would be around $850 billion or so for next year.
We now think that this year number, 46 CapEx of these five hyperscalers would be greater than 800 billion.
The next year, we're talking about 1.3 trillion and similar magnitude in 28.
This is a substantial reset of expectations of CapEx.
A good chunk of this CapEx has to get funded to the trade markets.
So if you think about from that perspective, the expectations are constantly being revised as to incremental amount of supply that needs to be absorbed.
So keep in mind that, as you said, Oracle is at the low end of the credit spectrum.
But the rest of the hyperscalers are very high-quality.
I mean, high-quality Microsoft is AAA, Alphabet is AA, and Amazon and Meta are AA, A+, so much, much higher quality.
But the expectation of a lot more supply in multiple currencies, in multiple maturities, in multiple forms, in unsecured form, securitized form, public markets, private markets, all of this abundance of issuance expectations that are ahead is the source of this agitale.
And if each time we have this expectation reset,
then there is incrementally getting wider.
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